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[*] posted on 14-5-2019 at 00:54


Thank you for your answer. Currently I don't have an access to (or rather, excess money to spend) these alcohols, so in the fortunate event I have the place again to work further on this reaction I will rather try again the menthol, changing other variables.

I've checked all nearby stores (and some further ones) and all brands of "hypoallergenic" baby oil contained things like vitamins, palmitate esters, etc. Thus, liquid paraffin I used looks like the best option, since it's reasonably pure, cheap and available in virtually every pharmacy.

I also want to strongly encourage you to try this reaction.
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[*] posted on 14-5-2019 at 03:39


Quote: Originally posted by oberkarteufel  
Thank you for your answer. Currently I don't have an access to (or rather, excess money to spend) these alcohols, so in the fortunate event I have the place again to work further on this reaction I will rather try again the menthol, changing other variables.

I've checked all nearby stores (and some further ones) and all brands of "hypoallergenic" baby oil contained things like vitamins, palmitate esters, etc. Thus, liquid paraffin I used looks like the best option, since it's reasonably pure, cheap and available in virtually every pharmacy.

I also want to strongly encourage you to try this reaction.


I tried making potassium with KOH, menthol, and baby oil and it didn't work. The baby oil I bought does claim to be hypoallergenic but according to the ingredients it contains isopropyl myristate and "parfum" (god knows what that is).
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[*] posted on 14-5-2019 at 09:00


I have tried with walmart brand hypoallergenic baby oil with some sort of fragrance with baffling results. The first attempt it went perfectly with maybe 5g of potassium being synthesized, but i have never been able to replicate the results. The second time huge plumes of white fog (not smoke) were generated after it reached ~150C. My 3rd and 4th attempts were very similar to what you reported with nothing happening except the oil turning a tan or light brown color.
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[*] posted on 14-5-2019 at 21:11


I'm pretty sure the white fog or smoke is the parfum being boiled out as it was when I tried baby oil heating baths.

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[*] posted on 15-5-2019 at 05:51


Has anyone else reported success with menthol? I don't recall that being used for this before.
It's good practice to start by replicating a known successful process first, then trying modifications.
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[*] posted on 15-5-2019 at 06:12


Are you completely unaware of nurdrages research into sodium production using the same rxn as the KOH method above?
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[*] posted on 15-5-2019 at 06:20


If you aren't here's where it's at: NaOH/mg in baby oil w/menthol catalyst= Na metal.
People are now trying to make potassium with menthol catalyst. Pok has made rubidium and nurdrage is trying to do lithium with the same rxn.my theory is K might be too big to fit on the menthol molecule the way sodium does and the steric hindrance is affected.might have too stick to tertiary alcohols for K formation.
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[*] posted on 15-5-2019 at 06:23


Not at all. I haven't watched every video though; does he succeed with menthol in one of them? That would have been more helpful information than a personal attack.

Even if he did use menthol for sodium, that doesn't necessarily prove it will work for potassium.


Edit: I didn't see your second post. Thank you, that is much more valuable information. I'll have to watch the newer videos.

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[*] posted on 15-5-2019 at 06:31


Glad to be of help,yes he succeeded with menthol. If you watch all of his sodium videos it spells out the mechanism what works what doesn't etc etc.
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