Pyro_cat
Hazard to Others
Posts: 205
Registered: 30-4-2018
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
DIY virus protection mask
I want to see what the science community comes up with.
|
|
|
Pyro_cat
Hazard to Others
Posts: 205
Registered: 30-4-2018
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
I was thinking motorcycle helmet with filtered air supply to keep a positive pressure inside like a space helmet.
Air pump, I come up with an idea yet. Ideas welcome.
"Wear an N95 respirator mask, which filters 95 percent of particles > 0.3 microns in diameter."
The typical filtration size of a coffee filter is approximately 20 microns.
High-efficiency particulate arrestance (HEPA) filters: These are the true high end of filtration and are able to filter out 0.3 micron particles.
HEPA filters drastically restrict airflow and should only be matched to a compatible system.
|
|
|
Fulmen
International Hazard
Posts: 1432
Registered: 24-9-2005
Member Is Offline
Mood: Bored
|
|
Just stop with any personal hygiene. That will keep other people away, eliminating exposure.
We're not banging rocks together here. We know how to put a man back together.
|
|
|
andy1988
Hazard to Others
Posts: 123
Registered: 11-2-2018
Location: NW Americus ([i]in re[/i] Amerigo Vespucci)
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
RZ masks are nice, I have their neoprene one. They claim "RZ Mask filters 99.9% of all particulates to a size of 0.1 micron".
I'd been meaning to post about the mask here, here is an excerpt from their FAQ:
| Quote: | Organic Chemical Filtration Guide
KEY TO FILTRATION PROPERTIES
E = EXCELLENT
G = GOOD
M = MODERATE
P = POOR
ALIPHATIC HYDROCARBONS
* Acetylene -G
* Butane (Iso-Butane) -E
* Butylene -E
* Butadiene -G
* Cyclohexane -E
* Decane -M
* Ethane -G
* Ethylene -M
* Heptane -E
* Heptylene -G
* Hexane -E
* Hexylene -G
* Methane -M
* Nonane -G
* Octane -G
* Octylene -E
* Pentane -G
* Propane -M
* Propylene -G
AROMATIC HYDROCARBONS
* Benzene -E
* Napthalene -E
* Styrene Monomer -E
* Toluene -E
* Toluidine -E
ESTERS
* Butyl Acetate -E
* Cellosolve Acetate -E
* Ethyl Acrylate -E
* Ethyl Formate -G
* Isopropyl Acetate -E
* Methyl Acetate -G
* Methyl Acrylate -E
* Methyl Formate -G
* Propyl Acetate -E
ALDEHYDES & KETONES
* Acetone -G
* Acetaldehyde -G
* Acrolein -G
* Acrylaldehyde -G
* Benzaldehyde -E
* Crontonaldehyde
* Cyclohexanone -E
* Diethyl Ketone -E
* Dipropyl Ketone -E
* Formaldehyde -M
* Methyl Butylketone -E
* Methyl Ethylketone -G
* Valeric Aldehyde -E
ACIDS
* Acetic -G
* Acetic Anhydride -E
* Acrylic -E
* Butyric -E
* Carbolic -E
* Formic -G
* Lactic -E
* Palmitic -E
* Phenol -E
* Propionic -E
ALCOHOLS
* Ethyl -G
* Anyl -E
* Butyl -E
* Cyclohexanol -E
* Isopropyl -E
* Methanol (Methyl) -M
* Propyl -E
SULPHUR COMPOUNDS
* Carbon disulphide -G
* Dimethyl Sulphate -G
* Ethyl mercaptan -E
* Hydrogen sulphide -M
* Methyl mercaptan -E
* Propyl mercaptan -E
* Sulphur Dioxide -E
* Sulphur trioxide -M
* Sulphuric Acid -M
NITROGEN COMPOUNDS
* Ammonia -M
* Aniline -E
* Diethyl Amine -G
* Diethyl Aniline -G
* Dimethyl Amine -E
* Ethyl Amine -G
* Nicotine -E
* Nitric acid -G
* Nitrobenzene -E
* Nitroethane -E
* Nitrogen Dioxide -E
* Nitroglycerine -E
* Nitromethane -G
* Nitropropane -E
* Nitrotoluene -E
* Urea -E
* Uric Acid -E
ETHERS
* Amyl -E
* Butyl -E
* Cellosolve -E
* Dioxan -E
* Ethyl -G
* Ethylene Oxide -M
* Isopropyl -E
* Methyl Cellosolve -E
* Methyl -G
* Propyl -E
HALOGENATED HYDROCARBONS
* Butyl Chloride -E
* Carbon Tetrachloride -G
* Chlorine -M
* Chlorobenzene -E
* Chlorobutadiene -E
* Chloroform -E
* Chloro nitropropane -E
* Chloropicrin -E
* Dibromoethane -E
* Dichlorobenzene -E
* Bromine -G
* Dichlorodifluoro Methane -M
* Dichlorodifluoro Ethane -G
* Dichlorethane -E
* Dichloroethylene -E
* Dichloroethyl ether -E
* Dichloromethane -M
* Dichloromonofluoro Methane -M
* Dichloropropane -G
* Dichlorotetrafluoro ethane -M
* Ethyl bromide -G
* Ethyl Chloride -G
* Ethylene chlorohydrin -G
* Ethylene dichloride -G
* Fluorotrichloromethane -M
* Freon -M
* Hydrogen bromide -M
* Hydrogen chloride -M
* Hydrogen Cyanide -M
* Hydroxen Fluoride -M
* Hydrogen iodide -M
* Iodine -E
* Methyl bromide -E
* Methyl chloride -E
* Methyl chloroform -E
* Methylene chloride -E
* Monochlorobenzene -E
* Paradichlorobenzene -E
* Perchloroethylene -G
HALOGENATED HYDROCARBONS
* Propyl chloride -G
* Tetrachloro ethane -G
* Tetrachloro ethylene -G
* Trichloro ethylene -G
* Vinyl chloride -G |
Benzene is the only thing I know enough to care about, when dealing with mineral spirits products outside a fume hood (e.g. paint, leukemia runs in my
family). I don't know about many of these others but I thought it may interest someone here.
I'm not sure how a mask would be able to filter out viruses though. I think helmet based ventilation would be the way to go. I guess you could DIY one
like this, by vacuum thermoforming. Or just buy a full face scuba mask and such. Then compress your own air supply away from civilization and carry a tank? Then
again I expect a group somewhere will find a way to vaccinate against the virus.
[Edited on 29-2-2020 by andy1988]
|
|
|
RogueRose
International Hazard
Posts: 1543
Registered: 16-6-2014
Member Is Offline
|
|
Get an air system filter (MERV 15 or 16 is equal to N95 or better). Use some Tyvek (USPS mailers priority or express mail envelopes if you don't want
to buy rolls) and cut out 2 sides of a mask and glue them together (hot glue works, lower temp is better). Cut an 1 - 1.5" square of filter and glue
the filter on the edges, then cut an X on the back side and the air will come through, just make sure the X stays inside the filter. This will act
kind of like a one way check valve.
Just look online for mask designs, it's not hard to make them and this setup does work, I tried it and it worked as well as the mask's I've tried
before.
|
|
|
unionised
International Hazard
Posts: 4543
Registered: 1-11-2003
Location: UK
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Realistically, it's hardly worth it - in particular, unless you can get the face fit checked, any mask is useless (except that it stops you picking
your nose).
However the idea of " my life may depend on this so I will make it from envelopes and hot melt glue" is still interesting.
Do you plan a DIY parachute too?
|
|
|
Twospoons
International Hazard
Posts: 1111
Registered: 26-7-2004
Location: Middle Earth
Member Is Offline
Mood: A trace of hope...
|
|
Don't forget the need to cover your eyes as well. Virus laden droplets can get in that way too.
Masks are better used for preventing sick people releasing virus into the air in the first place.
Helicopter: "helico" -> spiral, "pter" -> with wings
|
|
|
j_sum1
|
Thread Split
2-3-2020 at 13:12 |
Rosco Bodine
Banned
Posts: 6370
Registered: 29-9-2004
Member Is Offline
Mood: analytical
|
|
Dr. Drew has an insight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?38=&v=PWY0oZV51VY
Sane reporting how refreshing not everyone is CLUELESS
https://nypost.com/2020/03/01/criticisms-of-trumps-coronavir...
[Edited on 3/2/2020 by Rosco Bodine]
|
|
|
Herr Haber
International Hazard
Posts: 893
Registered: 29-1-2016
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
A fish rots from the head.
The spirit of adventure was upon me. Having nitric acid and copper, I had only to learn what the words 'act upon' meant. - Ira Remsen
|
|
|
Rosco Bodine
Banned
Posts: 6370
Registered: 29-9-2004
Member Is Offline
Mood: analytical
|
|
No BS analysis from a medical doctor regarding the covid-19 "bio-threat" and associated *security issues* generally counter-measured by the present US
Bio-Defense Strategy implemented in August of 2018, more than a year before current outbreak. Provided is insightful commentary on the SANITY and
necessity of *quarantine* practices as both a preventive and containment measure having both common sense and scientific validity.
Persons who have allowed their own personal "feelings" to irrationally accuse authorities of having mean spirited personal or political prejudicial
motives as motivation for entirely valid counter-measures to contagious diseases, such as travel restrictions, increased border security, and
quarantines ARE speaking in IGNORANCE and talking out their ass about SCIENCE they know absolutely NOTHING.
Pretenders of "knowledge" abound. But sensible more intellectually honest normal people having any COMMON SENSE would be enormously relieved if such
perceptive "regular Einsteins" would find the two brain cells needed to rub together and make that spark of "enlightenment" needed to know WHEN it
has arrived their good time to STFU.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=214&v=kcxJAU...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=58&v=QDTVWed...
|
|
|
Herr Haber
International Hazard
Posts: 893
Registered: 29-1-2016
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Stable Genius still belives in magical thinking:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/03/03/trumps-ba...
The spirit of adventure was upon me. Having nitric acid and copper, I had only to learn what the words 'act upon' meant. - Ira Remsen
|
|
|
mayko
International Hazard
Posts: 1071
Registered: 17-1-2013
Location: Carrboro, NC
Member Is Offline
Mood: anomalous
|
|
Quote: Originally posted by Rosco Bodine  | normal people having any COMMON SENSE would be enormously relieved if such perceptive "regular Einsteins" would [...] know WHEN it has arrived their
good time to STFU.
|
Hey, when you're right, you're right!
al-khemie is not a terrorist organization
"Chemicals, chemicals... I need chemicals!" - George Hayduke
"Wubbalubba dub-dub!" - Rick Sanchez
|
|
|
Rosco Bodine
Banned
Posts: 6370
Registered: 29-9-2004
Member Is Offline
Mood: analytical
|
|
No matter the subject, whether it is national security related to ENERGY, or to Border Security, or to Public Health the same Poisoned Intellects
imagine they are "experts".
Never let a little thing like the FACTS try to influence an idealistic radical FANATIC whose ultimate "hive mind" DYSTOPIAN "ideal" is to DEGENERATE
the entire world into a hybrid of Venezuela or Cuba merged with Caligula's Rome, where sore covered and starving street shitters mill about aimlessly
looking for the EXIT from the "utopia" that is their realized Brave New World.
The WORST "magical thinking" that has plagued this world and this country has a common denominator in the supercilious CLUELESS that are the mentally
blueprinted closed and brainwashed mind PRODUCT of decades of the "long march" of dogmatic atheistic *Marxist indoctrination* that ALL DRONES of that
IDIOT *hive mind* suffer.
That particular mass produced variety of hive mind IMBECILE are the self annointed and self appointed "thought police" who have the HUBRIS to task
themselves to
"enlighten" the rest of a critical thinking humanity and do so by every Big Lie their poisoned intellect can conceive, being a proponent of every EVIL
ABOMINATION that can be inflicted on man, woman, adult or child...as if THEY THE CLUELESS are qualified to be "leaders" of us all. What
"qualification" it is, being EXEMPLARY PERVERTS and agents of HELL trying to sell the gullible a bill of goods is EXACTLY what is represented by those
Pied Pipers followed by a HERD of equally "brilliant" like minded VERMIN.
The "critics" in the peanut gallery are a CLOWN BRIGADE of MENTAL MALFUNCTIONS.
|
|
|
Texium (zts16)
Administrator
Posts: 3318
Registered: 11-1-2014
Location: Salt Lake City
Member Is Offline
Mood: Triturated
|
|
Alright, considering that the OP hasn’t returned to this thread, it was a concept of dubious worth to begin with, and no amount of surgery is going
to save it from another descent into madness, I’m gonna pull the plug.
|
|
|
Texium (zts16)
|
Thread Moved
4-3-2020 at 07:31 |
![[*]](images/xpblue/default_icon.gif){kind=icon}
