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shocked.gif posted on 28-5-2020 at 09:45
Apologies for the downtime


I saw in my email today that the site was down. Both the web site and the SSH server were unresponsive. I was able to reboot the instance from my hosting provider's management console. It seems to be working normally now. I'm not sure what caused the site to become unresponsive in the first place.



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[*] posted on 28-5-2020 at 09:49


What was the exact duration (starting -> end in h:m:s d/m/y) the site went down, in UTC?

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[*] posted on 28-5-2020 at 09:54


It looks like the last successful request before the site went down was at 27/May/2020:04:57:47 +0000, according to web server logs. The first successful request following the restart was at 28/May/2020:17:38:38 +0000.



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[*] posted on 28-5-2020 at 09:59


Quote: Originally posted by Polverone  
I saw in my email today that the site was down. Both the web site and the SSH server were unresponsive. I was able to reboot the instance from my hosting provider's management console. It seems to be working normally now. I'm not sure what caused the site to become unresponsive in the first place.


Thanks for your efforts Polverone. I was expecting to develop withdrawal symptoms had it continued LOL




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[*] posted on 28-5-2020 at 10:07


I couldn't believe how much I was missing being able to read the forum, was starting to go cold turkey!
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[*] posted on 28-5-2020 at 10:21


i WAS in withdrawal.

Thank You Polverone




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[*] posted on 28-5-2020 at 10:46


Quote: Originally posted by wg48temp9  
I was expecting to develop withdrawal symptoms had it continued LOL


Same here, glad I'm not the only one addicted to chemisty and not just certain chemicals.
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[*] posted on 28-5-2020 at 11:18


"panic attack" solved, thanks polverone!




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[*] posted on 28-5-2020 at 11:32


Thanks for bringing it back online and for hosting this amazing community in the first place. I am embarrassed to admit how many times I checked to see if it was back up:P:
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[*] posted on 28-5-2020 at 11:39


Polverone, thanks again!
Also thanks for providing us with this platform having this great forum!




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[*] posted on 28-5-2020 at 11:48


I actually wish you did the forum software switch while the site was down but never mind.

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[*] posted on 28-5-2020 at 11:59


Oh good!, the site is back up.
For me, it was strange, I could access the home screen (FAQ, Forum (http), Forum (https), etc), but could not move into any of the sections. Did anyone else have this particular behaviour? Any ideas on its possible cause?




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[*] posted on 28-5-2020 at 12:00


Quote: Originally posted by Chemorg42  
Oh good!, the site is back up.
For me, it was strange, I could access the home screen (FAQ, Forum (http), Forum (https), etc), but could not move into any of the sections. Did anyone else have this particular behaviour? Any ideas on its possible cause?


same, but no one knows anything at the moment





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[*] posted on 28-5-2020 at 12:05


Great to see it is back up. Thanks a lot.
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[*] posted on 28-5-2020 at 12:33


Quote: Originally posted by Chemorg42  
Oh good!, the site is back up.
For me, it was strange, I could access the home screen (FAQ, Forum (http), Forum (https), etc), but could not move into any of the sections. Did anyone else have this particular behaviour? Any ideas on its possible cause?
Do you mean when SM was down or after it went back up? I can't even access the homepage when it was down.
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[*] posted on 28-5-2020 at 12:38


Quote: Originally posted by fusso  
Quote: Originally posted by Chemorg42  
Oh good!, the site is back up.
For me, it was strange, I could access the home screen (FAQ, Forum (http), Forum (https), etc), but could not move into any of the sections. Did anyone else have this particular behaviour? Any ideas on its possible cause?
Do you mean when SM was down or after it went back up? I can't even access the homepage when it was down.


I had the same, but not on a different computer, if you visit a stationary site often your browser saves it to reduce traffic, so the front page was loaded from local.

Great it is up again! I had a bit of withdrawal as well.
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[*] posted on 28-5-2020 at 12:40


I'm glad the forum was back up. I was already getting scared the forum was taken down or something.



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[*] posted on 28-5-2020 at 23:24


What would happen when Polverone would be incapacitated for some reason? Is there a second person with the capacity to keep the forum running? And does anyone here know who that person is?
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[*] posted on 29-5-2020 at 08:00


Thanks boss. Hopefully all worries have been abated.
Except for the one above, which I myself have often wondered

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[*] posted on 29-5-2020 at 08:25


It might be worth making an official sciencemadness account on one of the major social media platforms, and sharing the login details with all active forum staff, in order to report site outages and similar problems.
This would also allow for a coordinated response if there was a major site issue, and the site had to be restored from backups or something.
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[*] posted on 29-5-2020 at 14:28


I third that worry above.
I know of at least two boards which have been lost due to that, because the owner died without sharing the informations with anyone before.
Please Polverone, have a thought about that!
We don't want to loose this forum :(
Not you either, but please take precautions.
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[*] posted on 29-5-2020 at 15:22


I remember there was this post that had someone making SM clones for back up to a certain date to at least save all of the information and posts on here to a set date.
Mabus was talking about if anyone could post a link to a SM Clones on discord.

Update here it is it was under fourm matters
Site back up
http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=12051


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[*] posted on 30-5-2020 at 07:39


Quote: Originally posted by Chemorg42  
Oh good!, the site is back up.
For me, it was strange, I could access the home screen (FAQ, Forum (http), Forum (https), etc), but could not move into any of the sections. Did anyone else have this particular behaviour? Any ideas on its possible cause?


That sounds like it's because of your browser caching web pages - hit Cntrl+F5 to do a refresh that doesn't pull from the cache to avoid this.
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[*] posted on 30-5-2020 at 09:18


There is a forum backup that anyone can download here: https://www.sciencemadness.org/whisper/viewthread.php?tid=12...

I try to update it a few times a year. Anyone can download it to get archival access to all of the public forums. My fellow moderators have the password so that they can recover the private forums too, along with all the attachments on posts in private forums.

Woelen has the technical skill that I believe he could restart the forum from a backup on a new web host if I were to suddenly vanish. I'm sure there are many members here who could manage the same, even if they had to restart without the private forum contents.

The Internet Archive's Wayback Machine captures static content like the Library, LANL documents, and wiki entries:

https://web.archive.org/web/20200513132133/http://library.sc...

https://web.archive.org/web/20191016235746/http://library.sc...

https://web.archive.org/web/20170929094239/http://www.sciencemadness.org/smwiki/index.php/Glauber's_hydrochloric_acid_synthesis

It also captures a fair bit of the forum, but you wouldn't want to try to recreate the forum from their data.




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[*] posted on 30-5-2020 at 11:15


Quote: Originally posted by Polverone  
There is a forum backup that anyone can download here: https://www.sciencemadness.org/whisper/viewthread.php?tid=12...


Woelen has the technical skill that I believe he could restart the forum from a backup on a new web host if I were to suddenly vanish


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