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[*] posted on 17-3-2022 at 14:03


How about just making benzaldehyde from bensyl alcohol? Sure has a nice smell of Amaretto liquor :).
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[*] posted on 17-4-2022 at 10:50


combining HCl or NaOH with acetone and letting it sit for a while (maybe some sunlight for good luck)
forms an oily compound, phorone or something like it, i remember long ago i had wiped some of this off on a piece of paper towel and on a hot summer day it was drying near a window and as i woke back up again it was the most beautiful aroma ive ever come across

personally i really like the smell of resorcinol, but i believe its mostly made by extraction from exotic wood barks




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[*] posted on 18-4-2022 at 02:52


Quote: Originally posted by Antiswat  
combining HCl or NaOH with acetone and letting it sit for a while (maybe some sunlight for good luck)
forms an oily compound, phorone or something like it, i remember long ago i had wiped some of this off on a piece of paper towel and on a hot summer day it was drying near a window and as i woke back up again it was the most beautiful aroma ive ever come across

Sounds like a mixture of phorone and mesityl oxide, both products of acetone self-condensation. The former has a floral smell, the latter is more sweet.




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[*] posted on 26-3-2023 at 14:49


SO I made 2-hydroxynaphthaldehyde by the reaction of chloroform with basic naphthol. Pain in the neck to purify without vacuum distillation, and mostly full of purple impurities, but it smells nice.

I'd like to convert some of it to the ethyl or methyl ether (either with ethyl bromide/KOH, as for ethoxynaphthalene, or with methanol/KHSO4, as for methoxynaphthalene). Will the aldehyde group stand up to and/or prevent these reactions? I ask because I've never managed to alkylate salicaldehyde.....




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[*] posted on 26-3-2023 at 22:03


Interesting, what's its smell? Similar to vanillin? I made only methyl, ethyl, allyl ethers of 2-naphthol where methyl and ethyl are solids and have scents similar to orange but different than limonene (they resemble me soaps of my childhood of Na palmitate type, but not the soap scent itself, just the additives added to soaps). Allyl is liquid and odorless.
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[*] posted on 26-3-2023 at 22:09


No, it was very fruity- more like methyl anthranilate. Definitely grape, although it might have tricked my brain into thinking of grapes by the aforementioned purple impurities.



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[*] posted on 27-3-2023 at 08:51


Are the purple impurities oxidation products of naphthol? Complex with Fe3+ ? My naphthol was pale yellow/brown as solid and quite dark after dissolving, but the ether product was easy to purify by steam distillation. The steam distillation was not true steam distillation, it was just a lazy hydrodistillation - one distillation round bottomed flask with water as well the product and dropping funnel to add water which distilled out. I reused condensed water to refill dropping funnel as the product was slightly soluble in water and I distilled significant volumes of water.
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[*] posted on 27-3-2023 at 14:06


No idea. I'll probably try steam distillation next time I try it. Also extraction with dichloromethane, as naphthol itself isn't very soluble in DCM (and the aldehyde is).

I'm thinking it would be good to make ethers of, as well as salen-type ligands.




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[*] posted on 3-4-2023 at 06:24


I'm not sure if it has been said yet, but you could make chloroacetone if you're looking for something easy.
It's as simple as bubbling dry Chlorine gas through acetone.
It makes something that has a very strong vapor and was used as a tear gas in WW1.
It's quite potent so be careful when making or handling it.

you could also make a dispersal method for it if you're looking to get gassed. just try not to breathe much in at one time :)




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[*] posted on 3-4-2023 at 06:25


One more idea, You could make wintergreen it's simple and does not take a whole lot of time, it also smells very good.



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[*] posted on 3-4-2023 at 11:06


Quote: Originally posted by Raid  
I'm not sure if it has been said yet, but you could make chloroacetone if you're looking for something easy.
It's as simple as bubbling dry Chlorine gas through acetone.
It makes something that has a very strong vapor and was used as a tear gas in WW1.
It's quite potent so be careful when making or handling it.

you could also make a dispersal method for it if you're looking to get gassed. just try not to breathe much in at one time :)

What the hell. Is this some kind of joke? How could chloroacetone be considered a pleasant-smelling compound? Clearly you didn't understand the premise of the thread before you posted (emphasis added by me):
Quote: Originally posted by JacobM  
I'm looking for concise and simple syntheses of odor compounds with a pleasant smell. I don't want to make esters. Do you have any suggestions?
Quote: Originally posted by JacobM  
I honestly have no intention of making massive amounts of (or any amount of) explosives or toxic gases or anything else that could be considered kewlism and I do take safety as seriously as possible with my conditions.

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