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[*] posted on 5-7-2012 at 17:43
Stock Solutions-


I just ordered 30+ bottles all longing for stock solutions to be made and put in them. Some of them I have an idea of what to put in them (the stuff I am constantly stirring in to water- like CuSO4 and such). But I don't know what other solutions I should make. I have 100+ chemicals, and only 30+ bottles, so it should be difficult- I wanna make a solution of everything! lol

So anyways- I want to know what all of your stock solutions that you most commonly use are.

I am always sure to keep 3M NH4OH and 1M NaOH nearby.




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[*] posted on 5-7-2012 at 17:48


a concentrated solution of ammonia in dry ethanol or methanol is handy for anhydrous ammonium salt preparation, IMO



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[*] posted on 5-7-2012 at 21:03


NaHSO3 is handy to have. 1N, 2N & 6N HCl same series with NaOH. 20% acetic acid is good to have. Brine is good to have at least a L of if you're doing organic syntheses. Infusions of Caffea arabica are best prepared as needed, like every afternoon. 40% EtOH obtained from barely beer through copper pot and coil may save the day.



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[*] posted on 5-7-2012 at 23:37


I hardly have any stock solutions. I once did, but I stopped with this, because quite a few stock solutions quickly deteriorate much faster than the solid chemicals.

I have had sulfite solutions being oxidized to sulfate, I had mould in solutions of glycerol and citrates, my solution of copper sulfate formed a very fine precipitate, due to hydrolysis of copper(II) ions and a similar problem I had with solutions of FeCl3. The pure chemicals kept well, the solutions deteriorated.
At the moment, the only specially prepared working solutions I have are 20% H2SO4, 10% HCl, 30% HClO4, 20% HNO3 and 10% H2O2. All of these are made from more concentrated acids and solutions.


So, I switched strategy. I now have small work-bottles in which I store 10 to 20 grams of chemicals and I have larger bottles, which I keep closed always, except when I need to refill my work-bottles. In this way, my larger quantities of chemicals keep well, because they are kept very well sealed and only open up every few months or even less frequently. When working with the chemicals I do not have to deal with large heavy bottles, but with small canisters of 25 ml or so which are a pleasure to handle. Another advantage of this approach is that accidental contamination of my chemicals only affects the small amount in the work-bottle and not the total amount in the larger bottle. Yet another advantage is that at my work-place in the lab I only have very small quantities of chemicals. The larger bottles are stored somewhere else. This reduces the risk of having bigger quantities of chemicals nearby while an experiment gets out of hand.




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[*] posted on 6-7-2012 at 00:25


I agree with Woelen. Beyond just the common stock solution, there is no need to make 30+ solutions unless you plan of using them soon - or unless you have a lab refrigerator to keep the solution fresh.:o

It's better just to have some very common stock solution (like naoh, hcl, h2so4, hno3, etc.) and the rest should be made on the fly on a need basis.

I also have several other stock solutions like BaCl2 (for sulfate test), KI (for lead test), and a few others which i can't remember. Luckily, I have a refrigerator dedicated to keeping my chemicals cool and fresh.:D

Anyway, I hope these suggestions help. Good luck.


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[*] posted on 6-7-2012 at 02:59


I've got few basic ones like copper sulphate, sodium hydroxide, hydrochloric and sulphuric acid, sodium hydrogencarbonate for washing and neutralising organic stuff... I agree with woelen, they deteriorate and if you want to do anything analytical, it's best to prepare them each time. The ones I've got are for quick microscale identifications, nothing fancy.



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[*] posted on 6-7-2012 at 06:49


One that is nice to have is sodium thiosulfate. If you are dealing with any of the hallogens it can neutralize them.



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[*] posted on 6-7-2012 at 07:34


I've never had any problems with my copper sulphate- because I got some fine advice from a friend to add a couple drops of H2SO4. It stabilizes it to prevent hydrolysis.

Anyways- thanks for all the imput!




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[*] posted on 6-7-2012 at 08:59


What a great way to potentially ruin a good qualitative/quantitative analysis...the best solution is, as others mention, just to make it up as you need it.



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[*] posted on 7-7-2012 at 05:40


3M KCl for pH probes... Conc. KOH/NaOH... Sodium bicarb. Silver nitrate. One or two others, but not much at all, and only those that don't deteriorate.
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