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Water to Fire....
im looking at different reactions that start a fire when you add water..
aluminum powder + silver nitrate
zinc powder + ammonium nitrate + ammonium chloride
aluminum powder + sodium peroxide
any others come to mind?
aluminum - zinc and magnesium powder could be used interchangeably in most of these i would think..
[Edited on 15-6-2006 by jimmyboy]
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Glycerin + KMnO4? Er... glycerin isn't water I suppose...
Hum...
Sodium, or most any alkali metal for that matter 
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Aluminum powder and iodine works nicely, albeit fairly dangerously.
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Sodium peroxide and sulfur?
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Could have sworn there was another thread on this....
Sodium peroxide + paper towel +water
potassium(or sodium) and ether + water
Doesent LiAlH4 spark when exposed to atmospheric water?
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no i checked closely - no thread like this - hmm aluminum and iodine crystals will catch fire? that would be interesting..
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Yup. But it has to be finely powdered aluminum and very finely crushed crystals. It burns and releases a copious amount of purple smoke (iodine) and
a great deal of heat.
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Silver nitrate + powdered magnesium in an approximate 5 : 2 weight ratio. Be careful though with this one. Even humidity from air can set off this mix
and the heat, produced is insane. You need a certain critical mass (appr. 100 mg from my experience), but if it sets of it is intensely hot and small
droplets of molten silver metal are sprayed around. So, be careful!!
Another nice one is KICl4 + Mg powder. When a drop of water is added, then a big purple cloud of iodine is released. This reaction is quite funny. You
have a bright yellow powder, which on wetting produces a big purple gas-cloud. Very nice for demo purposes. KICl4 can be made from KIO3 + conc. HCl or
KIO4 + conc. HCl or conc. KI + bubbling of excess of Cl2.
Also very nice is bromine + a turning of magnesium, or ICl + turning of magnesium. These do not react. The turning of magnesium just floats on the
liquid and does not react at all. When a small quantity of water is added, then a very violent reaction starts, with release of copious amounts of red
fumes.
[Edited on 16-6-06 by woelen]
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Military specifications for setting things like icebergs on fire
call for using Triethyl Aluminum . It is pyrophoric and not
readily available or transportable for this reason.
Calcium Phosphide is used in marine flares because this
material breaks down in water producing Phosphine PH3
which burns red exposed to air.
[Edited on 24-6-2006 by franklyn]
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If the water is acidic, throw in some magnesium silicide. The following happens:
Mg<sub>2</sub>Si<sub>(s)</sub> + 4H<sup>+</sup><sub>(aq)</sub> -->
2Mg<sup>2+</sup><sub>(aq)</sub> + SiH<sub>4(g)</sub>
The SiH<sub>4</sub> (silane) produced is pyrophoric and the bubbles ignite as they leave the water. 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Jdurg
Aluminum powder and iodine works nicely, albeit fairly dangerously. |
It's only dangerous if you breathe the iodine fumes, no?
I'd say the reaction is worth a try.
Incidentally, could my garage be unique in being the only one in the US to have been filled with the gas of every halogen? (besides As, of course)
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Spitting red hot bits of Al are dangerous even if you don't breath them. The AlI3 vapour probably doesn't count as a tonic either.
Last time I checked As wasn't a gas or a halogen.I guess you mean At.
I wonder what your garage is made of because if you filled most rooms with F2 they would burn or explode.
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Molten sulfur and copper metal burn
Liquify the sulfur first then add the copper metal and it burns
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H2 and F2.
the so called spontanious reaction of them even in the dark or at very low temp. is due to traces of H2O.
BTW the Al+AgNO3 sounds like a potenrial anti-vampir granade.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by The_Chemist
Molten sulfur and copper metal burn
Liquify the sulfur first then add the copper metal and it burns |
I am missing something. Could you explain how you post relates to the original question | Quote: |
im looking at different reactions that start a fire when you add water..
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I can not seem to find any mention of water in what you propose.
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The_Chemist
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| Quote: | Originally posted by not_important
| Quote: | Originally posted by The_Chemist
Molten sulfur and copper metal burn
Liquify the sulfur first then add the copper metal and it burns |
I am missing something. Could you explain how you post relates to the original question | Quote: |
im looking at different reactions that start a fire when you add water..
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I can not seem to find any mention of water in what you propose. |
READ THE OTHER POSTS
I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE TO POST ABOUT 2 ELEMENTS/COMPOUNDS REACTING IN A VIGOROUS MANNER
READ THE OTHER POSTS BEFORE CRITISIZING ME, K?
ONLY 2 POSTS OUT OF THIS THREAD INCLUDE WATER IN THEIR REACTIONS OK??? WHEN YOU GET A BRAIN THEN I WILL PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR SILLY STUPID LITTLE
POSTS
[Edited on 11-11-2006 by The_Chemist]
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Heh - relax, will ya?
No capitalisation please. It indicates you have a bad temper incapable of accepting (constructive) criticism or facts.
Actually most reactions described here are *initiated* by water. Read closer.
Also, before you judge people by saying 'YOUR SILLY STUPID LITTLE POSTS' I strongly recommend you check the poster's other posts. They are of high
qualitity throughout.
Before you post the next time please get your temper in check. We aren't keen on shouting screaming children who can't have it their own way, nor
children who can't accept a nudge in the right direction.
Okay?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by chemoleo
Heh - relax, will ya?
No capitalisation please. It indicates you have a bad temper incapable of accepting (constructive) criticism or facts.
Actually most reactions described here are *initiated* by water. Read closer.
Also, before you judge people by saying 'YOUR SILLY STUPID LITTLE POSTS' I strongly recommend you check the poster's other posts. They are of high
qualitity throughout.
Before you post the next time please get your temper in check. We aren't keen on shouting screaming children who can't have it their own way, nor
children who can't accept a nudge in the right direction.
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I am a retired chemist. I think this other person needs to learn how to read before critisizing me. I do not care at all what other posts they make
as they choose to not read through a thread before making a judgement against me. Ok? I hope you have the capacity to understand me....... Please
think very long and hard before questioning me, ok?
[Edited on 11-11-2006 by The_Chemist]
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Thanks for refraining from capitalisation.
| Quote: | | I hope you have the capacity to understand me....... Please think very long and hard before questioning me, ok? |
Lol. What precisely is the origin or your pomposity? Do you think your claims give you ANY credibility whatsoever?
By the way I am George Bush. And I love bombing countries in the name of liberty. For I am mighty and righteous. Now please brother, do not dare to
question me. For I cannot accept criticism against me, so please, lowling, think long and hard before you question me.
Let's get this back on topic, shall we?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by chemoleo
Thanks for refraining from capitalisation.
| Quote: | | I hope you have the capacity to understand me....... Please think very long and hard before questioning me, ok? |
Lol. What precisely is the origin or your pomposity? Do you think your claims give you ANY credibility whatsoever?
By the way I am George Bush. And I love bombing countries in the name of liberty. For I am mighty and righteous. Now please brother, do not dare to
question me. For I cannot accept criticism against me, so please, lowling, think long and hard before you question me.
Let's get this back on topic, shall we? |
Thank you for critisizing my beloved president. I hope your dual citizenship gives you a leader/leaders you can believe in.
Can I ask you what accent you use since you are from 2 different countries at the same time??? England AND Germany???
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Shhh.
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Cool! It was about time to have another troll visit us. Though, this one is a bit boring. I miss the really good ones of the past that were actually
able to lure members into their tricks. Reviving old threads by posting off topic in order to insult everybody who comments is a really childish
trick. (The_Chemist, please go ahead, insult me too. I get so much fun and laugh from trolls like you trying to do what they do. )
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| Quote: | Originally posted by 12AX7
Glycerin + KMnO4? Er... glycerin isn't water I suppose...
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well no, but you`re half right, if you use Sugar instead, that works 
although it`s tricky getting the exact right amount of water to trigger the flame.
how about a water soluble Sulphide and a Chlorate
or Calcium Carbide and some sort of Oxidiser, perhaps a superoxide ?
RP and TCCA might work too.
[Edited on 11-11-2006 by YT2095]
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Red P + NaHSO4 + NaCl + TCCA.
Add a drop of water and it inflames.
Even better is when TCCA is replaced by Ca(ClO)2, but this is more dangerous. It may even inflame without water!
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jimmyboy
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i only wish Red P was still OTC in the states.. damn methheads..
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