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Sulaiman
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UK Chemical supplier

http://darrantchemicals.co.uk/index.php

acids, bases, solvents etc. VERY cheap
(use code DAR2345 on checkout for an extra 10% discount)
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Sodium bromide seems to have vanished from the pool supplies around here; did I miss something?
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 Quote: Originally posted by sussyn Sodium bromide seems to have vanished from the pool supplies around here; did I miss something?

Maybe it depends on where "around here" is. It looks like there is some for $7 per pound at Menards: http://www.menards.com/main/health-wellness/pools-spas-sauna... j_sum1 International Hazard Posts: 2795 Registered: 4-10-2014 Location: Oz Member Is Offline Mood: inert even with vigorous stirring. Quote: Originally posted by unfrozen  Quote: Originally posted by sussyn Sodium bromide seems to have vanished from the pool supplies around here; did I miss something? Maybe it depends on where "around here" is. It looks like there is some for$7 per pound at Menards:
http://www.menards.com/main/health-wellness/pools-spas-sauna...

Part of the reason is that DBDMH is so good at its job. If you look at the mechanism by which it operates, it is quite clever.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DBDMH
It combines oxidative sanitation with stability and longevity of action.

The fact that it is more difficult to produce free Br2 (accidentally or deliberately) has also pushed the market forces in that direction.

I should cut and paste the correct link.

[Edited on 12-2-2016 by j_sum1]

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Quote: Originally posted by j_sum1
Quote: Originally posted by unfrozen
 Quote: Originally posted by sussyn Sodium bromide seems to have vanished from the pool supplies around here; did I miss something?

Maybe it depends on where "around here" is. It looks like there is some for \$7 per pound at Menards:
http://www.menards.com/main/health-wellness/pools-spas-sauna...

Part of the reason is that DBDMH is so good at its job. If you look at the mechanism by which it operates, it is quite clever.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DBDMH
It combines oxidative sanitation with stability and longevity of action.

The fact that it is more difficult to produce free Br2 (accidentally or deliberately) has also pushed the market forces in that direction.

I should cut and paste the correct link.

[Edited on 12-2-2016 by j_sum1]

What is the mechanism in a water free environment, such as glacial acetic acid? Is the usual radical bromination mechanism taking place here during the bromination of a carbonyl, where it proceeds through an enol or enolate? This would still result in the production of one equivalent of H-Br for every C-H -> C-Br substitution, correct?

Reason being is that I was told by someone that these hydantoins proceeds through a different mechanism, but they failed to enlighten me.

I would really appreciate a explanation.
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Sorry. I only know about their application in spa pools.
Good question though.

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The HyperDeath website is offline, but the chemical list lives on at the Internet Archive. https://web.archive.org/web/20150901002855/http://hyperdeath...

I have a pdf of the chemical list on my dropbox too. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3621645/Chemical%20List....

My Journal has moved to http://extraparts.info
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Who do I talk to if I want to add stuff to the list? For Canadians, there are OTC items not on the list (KNO3, various solvents/ acids, Zinc, Nickel, Manganese, Hydrogen Peroxide, Iodine, etc). I consider myself very good at getting OTC reagents, and it'd be fun to contribute to the list.
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Hello "I am a fish!"

What an amazing piece of work you did putting that list together, I have noticed that a lot of my friends from the UK have a particular harder time procuring chemicals than here in the USA, it's amazing what one can buy even on Amazon.com. Myself, I use a lot of domestic chemicals (supermarkets,drugstores ect,.) which I can use as substitutions, ie,.like using the gas line anti-freeze HEET because it's just methanol, ect.,

Equally ironic though, is a lot of what we, here in the US can buy, can't be shipped out of the USA

Again, my hats off to ya my friend, what a great piece of work!

have a good one!

Dave H
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 Quote: Originally posted by dhaffnersr Hello "I am a fish!" What an amazing piece of work you did putting that list together, I have noticed that a lot of my friends from the UK have a particular harder time procuring chemicals than here in the USA, it's amazing what one can buy even on Amazon.com. Myself, I use a lot of domestic chemicals (supermarkets,drugstores ect,.) which I can use as substitutions, ie,.like using the gas line anti-freeze HEET because it's just methanol, ect., Equally ironic though, is a lot of what we, here in the US can buy, can't be shipped out of the USA Again, my hats off to ya my friend, what a great piece of work! have a good one! Dave H

Pretty sure he's in jail. Isn't that one of Organikum's accounts?
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 Quote: Pretty sure he's in jail. Isn't that one of Organikum's accounts?

Oh man, I'm sorry to hear that.
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I already purshase some chems by the german seller S3chemicals on ebay.

Very cheap, he also have his own website.

Reagent Shop, a korean one have also plenty of products to but is very expensive.

[Edited on 1-4-2016 by brubei]
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 Quote: Originally posted by Loptr Pretty sure he's in jail. Isn't that one of Organikum's accounts?

I am a Fish is one of the original members of this forum who hasn't posted for some time. He was student in the U.K. Not related to Organikum.

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http://www.allinall.ie/products-page55152.html

There may be a similar site in you neck of the woods.
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After, reading the posts associated with the "Readily Available Chemical List" I get the feeling some of us are a bit sensitive... Any Chemist that is not likely going to poison their neighbors or themselves knows how to synthesis most chemicals they would need with a few exceptions.
My opinion is there is never a need or reason to belittle, disrespect, or mock another person. A lot of people want to be chemist and day dream of pulling of the latest recipe for the thrill of it but don't understand the terrible results of a run-away reaction, fire, explosion, poisoning, and deaths accosiated with the use of some chemicals.
True Chemists in my opinion are not the ones to be worrying about, they are not going to scrounge around looking for a few Kilos of chemical.
The Amatuer, Beginner is the one I worry about. They should be very careful and aware of the dangers of chemicals and reactions.
Environmental issues are another topic. Anyone that would leave a bottle, bucket or barrel of lab waste for another person to find or poison the local water way children play in. Doesn't deserve the privilege of chemistry.
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 Quote: Originally posted by ElizabethGreene The HyperDeath website is offline, but the chemical list lives on at the Internet Archive. https://web.archive.org/web/20150901002855/http://hyperdeath... I have a pdf of the chemical list on my dropbox too. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3621645/Chemical%20List....

/CJ

[EDIT] - Orgy is 'fishinabottle' on another forum and has been mistaken for 'I am a fish' a few times here since the missing persons thread................

[Edited on 4-3-2017 by Corrosive Joeseph]

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Pugsley

"After, reading the posts associated with the "Readily Available Chemical List" I get the feeling some of us are a bit sensitive... Any Chemist that is not likely going to poison their neighbors or themselves knows how to synthesis most chemicals they would need with a few exceptions. "

(I want to see how you progress in amateur chemistry without the OTC sources)

"My opinion is there is never a need or reason to belittle, disrespect, or mock another person."

(but ...)

"A lot of people want to be chemist and day dream of pulling of the latest recipe for the thrill of it but don't understand the terrible results of a run-away reaction, fire, explosion, poisoning, and deaths accosiated with the use of some chemicals.

True Chemists in my opinion are not the ones to be worrying about, they are not going to scrounge around looking for a few Kilos of chemical.
The Amatuer, Beginner is the one I worry about. They should be very careful and aware of the dangers of chemicals and reactions.

Environmental issues are another topic. Anyone that would leave a bottle, bucket or barrel of lab waste for another person to find or poison the local water way children play in. Doesn't deserve the privilege of chemistry."

(maybe you should consider the pollution caused by professional chemists and the people that they work for as a more significant environmental threat ? )

I wait in anticipation to see your environmentally friendly amateur experiments that need no OTC chemicals,
presumably you can synthesize them out of your rear end
- where your thoughts come from ?

When joining a group it is traditional to politely introduce yourself
- welcome

[Edited on 4-3-2017 by Sulaiman]

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