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[*] posted on 13-10-2015 at 00:06
UK Chemical supplier


http://darrantchemicals.co.uk/index.php

acids, bases, solvents etc. VERY cheap
(use code DAR2345 on checkout for an extra 10% discount)
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[*] posted on 10-11-2015 at 11:09


Sodium bromide seems to have vanished from the pool supplies around here; did I miss something?
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[*] posted on 11-2-2016 at 18:18


Quote: Originally posted by sussyn  
Sodium bromide seems to have vanished from the pool supplies around here; did I miss something?

Maybe it depends on where "around here" is. It looks like there is some for $7 per pound at Menards:
http://www.menards.com/main/health-wellness/pools-spas-sauna...
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[*] posted on 11-2-2016 at 19:08


Quote: Originally posted by unfrozen  
Quote: Originally posted by sussyn  
Sodium bromide seems to have vanished from the pool supplies around here; did I miss something?

Maybe it depends on where "around here" is. It looks like there is some for $7 per pound at Menards:
http://www.menards.com/main/health-wellness/pools-spas-sauna...

Part of the reason is that DBDMH is so good at its job. If you look at the mechanism by which it operates, it is quite clever.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DBDMH
It combines oxidative sanitation with stability and longevity of action.

The fact that it is more difficult to produce free Br2 (accidentally or deliberately) has also pushed the market forces in that direction.

[edit]
I should cut and paste the correct link.

[Edited on 12-2-2016 by j_sum1]




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[*] posted on 12-2-2016 at 01:36


Quote: Originally posted by j_sum1  
Quote: Originally posted by unfrozen  
Quote: Originally posted by sussyn  
Sodium bromide seems to have vanished from the pool supplies around here; did I miss something?

Maybe it depends on where "around here" is. It looks like there is some for $7 per pound at Menards:
http://www.menards.com/main/health-wellness/pools-spas-sauna...

Part of the reason is that DBDMH is so good at its job. If you look at the mechanism by which it operates, it is quite clever.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DBDMH
It combines oxidative sanitation with stability and longevity of action.

The fact that it is more difficult to produce free Br2 (accidentally or deliberately) has also pushed the market forces in that direction.

[edit]
I should cut and paste the correct link.

[Edited on 12-2-2016 by j_sum1]


What is the mechanism in a water free environment, such as glacial acetic acid? Is the usual radical bromination mechanism taking place here during the bromination of a carbonyl, where it proceeds through an enol or enolate? This would still result in the production of one equivalent of H-Br for every C-H -> C-Br substitution, correct?

Reason being is that I was told by someone that these hydantoins proceeds through a different mechanism, but they failed to enlighten me.

I would really appreciate a explanation.
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[*] posted on 12-2-2016 at 02:08


Sorry. I only know about their application in spa pools.
Good question though.




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[*] posted on 11-3-2016 at 10:13


The HyperDeath website is offline, but the chemical list lives on at the Internet Archive. https://web.archive.org/web/20150901002855/http://hyperdeath...

I have a pdf of the chemical list on my dropbox too. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3621645/Chemical%20List....




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[*] posted on 11-3-2016 at 12:35


Who do I talk to if I want to add stuff to the list? For Canadians, there are OTC items not on the list (KNO3, various solvents/ acids, Zinc, Nickel, Manganese, Hydrogen Peroxide, Iodine, etc). I consider myself very good at getting OTC reagents, and it'd be fun to contribute to the list.
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sad.gif posted on 30-3-2016 at 15:51


Hello "I am a fish!"

What an amazing piece of work you did putting that list together, I have noticed that a lot of my friends from the UK have a particular harder time procuring chemicals than here in the USA, it's amazing what one can buy even on Amazon.com. Myself, I use a lot of domestic chemicals (supermarkets,drugstores ect,.) which I can use as substitutions, ie,.like using the gas line anti-freeze HEET because it's just methanol, ect.,

Equally ironic though, is a lot of what we, here in the US can buy, can't be shipped out of the USA:(

Again, my hats off to ya my friend, what a great piece of work!

have a good one!

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[*] posted on 30-3-2016 at 17:22


Quote: Originally posted by dhaffnersr  
Hello "I am a fish!"

What an amazing piece of work you did putting that list together, I have noticed that a lot of my friends from the UK have a particular harder time procuring chemicals than here in the USA, it's amazing what one can buy even on Amazon.com. Myself, I use a lot of domestic chemicals (supermarkets,drugstores ect,.) which I can use as substitutions, ie,.like using the gas line anti-freeze HEET because it's just methanol, ect.,

Equally ironic though, is a lot of what we, here in the US can buy, can't be shipped out of the USA:(

Again, my hats off to ya my friend, what a great piece of work!

have a good one!

Dave H


Pretty sure he's in jail. Isn't that one of Organikum's accounts?
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[*] posted on 31-3-2016 at 01:06



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Pretty sure he's in jail. Isn't that one of Organikum's accounts?


Oh man, I'm sorry to hear that.
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[*] posted on 1-4-2016 at 12:03


I already purshase some chems by the german seller S3chemicals on ebay.

Very cheap, he also have his own website.

Reagent Shop, a korean one have also plenty of products to but is very expensive.



[Edited on 1-4-2016 by brubei]
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[*] posted on 5-9-2016 at 20:53


Could we just add this list to the Science Madness Wiki, then unsticky this post (since the link is dead)?
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[*] posted on 7-1-2017 at 22:08


Quote: Originally posted by Loptr  


Pretty sure he's in jail. Isn't that one of Organikum's accounts?


I am a Fish is one of the original members of this forum who hasn't posted for some time. He was student in the U.K. Not related to Organikum.




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[*] posted on 2-3-2017 at 12:45


http://www.allinall.ie/products-page55152.html

There may be a similar site in you neck of the woods.
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[*] posted on 3-3-2017 at 22:12


After, reading the posts associated with the "Readily Available Chemical List" I get the feeling some of us are a bit sensitive... Any Chemist that is not likely going to poison their neighbors or themselves knows how to synthesis most chemicals they would need with a few exceptions.
My opinion is there is never a need or reason to belittle, disrespect, or mock another person. A lot of people want to be chemist and day dream of pulling of the latest recipe for the thrill of it but don't understand the terrible results of a run-away reaction, fire, explosion, poisoning, and deaths accosiated with the use of some chemicals.
True Chemists in my opinion are not the ones to be worrying about, they are not going to scrounge around looking for a few Kilos of chemical.
The Amatuer, Beginner is the one I worry about. They should be very careful and aware of the dangers of chemicals and reactions.
Environmental issues are another topic. Anyone that would leave a bottle, bucket or barrel of lab waste for another person to find or poison the local water way children play in. Doesn't deserve the privilege of chemistry.
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[*] posted on 4-3-2017 at 01:11


Quote: Originally posted by ElizabethGreene  
The HyperDeath website is offline, but the chemical list lives on at the Internet Archive. https://web.archive.org/web/20150901002855/http://hyperdeath...

I have a pdf of the chemical list on my dropbox too. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3621645/Chemical%20List....


Pdf is attached. Unfortunately, quite a few links in this thread are dead..............


/CJ

Attachment: Readily.pdf (1.9MB)
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[EDIT] - Orgy is 'fishinabottle' on another forum and has been mistaken for 'I am a fish' a few times here since the missing persons thread................

[Edited on 4-3-2017 by Corrosive Joeseph]




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[*] posted on 4-3-2017 at 04:32
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"After, reading the posts associated with the "Readily Available Chemical List" I get the feeling some of us are a bit sensitive... Any Chemist that is not likely going to poison their neighbors or themselves knows how to synthesis most chemicals they would need with a few exceptions. "

(I want to see how you progress in amateur chemistry without the OTC sources)


"My opinion is there is never a need or reason to belittle, disrespect, or mock another person."

(but ...)

"A lot of people want to be chemist and day dream of pulling of the latest recipe for the thrill of it but don't understand the terrible results of a run-away reaction, fire, explosion, poisoning, and deaths accosiated with the use of some chemicals.

True Chemists in my opinion are not the ones to be worrying about, they are not going to scrounge around looking for a few Kilos of chemical.
The Amatuer, Beginner is the one I worry about. They should be very careful and aware of the dangers of chemicals and reactions.

Environmental issues are another topic. Anyone that would leave a bottle, bucket or barrel of lab waste for another person to find or poison the local water way children play in. Doesn't deserve the privilege of chemistry."

(maybe you should consider the pollution caused by professional chemists and the people that they work for as a more significant environmental threat ? )

I wait in anticipation to see your environmentally friendly amateur experiments that need no OTC chemicals,
presumably you can synthesize them out of your rear end
- where your thoughts come from ?

When joining a group it is traditional to politely introduce yourself
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[Edited on 4-3-2017 by Sulaiman]




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[*] posted on 11-4-2017 at 15:52


http://pyrochemsource.com/

Has it been mentioned before?

Seems cheap
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[*] posted on 17-9-2017 at 10:11


I have been using one chemical supplier in the UK for most of my needs.
Realized they have just about everything except for low value liquid reagents.

I just need some simple reagents like pyridine and piperidine at high purity.

Can anyone advise me on a shop that deals with hobbyists and would have these reagents as well as others?

If anyone could PM me and tell me about their experience ordering in the UK that would be great, I came here from the USA 3 years ago and I am finding it very hard to find things I need on ebay, amazon, etc.

Can anyone help?
Thanks!
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