Sciencemadness Discussion Board
Not logged in [Login ]
Go To Bottom

Printable Version  
Author: Subject: Sodium Chloride & the appartment dweller
gardul
HAZARD TO TEH CATZ!
***




Posts: 256
Registered: 18-10-2014
Location: Under the Sun in a beaker
Member Is Offline

Mood: Vivified!

[*] posted on 15-11-2014 at 02:04
Sodium Chloride & the appartment dweller


I have a problem.No no Idon't need help with this experiment. Well okay I kinda do but not in the way you would think. I used to do this all the time when I lived at my dads and were much younger. Dad has his own land and is located in the middle of no where. But unforently at this time, He is located in New york I live in arizona. That is a bit of distence just to show my wife this.

My wife wants to see this experiment, but I am unsure how to do this safely due to my current living situations. Which is the bane of most chemists. APARTMENTS. (shudders)

My thoughts where this.

the substence that will be used to produce the small amount chlorine will be in a flask that is stoppered of and a tube will run to a bigger flask. I am thinking that this flask (1000ml) will hopefully container the chlorine and the gas from the actual reaction. with out much issue.

But I am not really sure if this will work. There are many ways to nuetrilize the left over chlorine. Please tell me if this is just insanity and should never be attempted where I am at. or if someone has a better idea please speak freely.

Edit: Jeez I must have been tired. I have already found a solution to this. A very safe one. Anyway if the mods want to delete this.

[Edited on 15-11-2014 by gardul]




I just made you read this very pointless signature. How does it feel?
View user's profile View All Posts By User
MrHomeScientist
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 1806
Registered: 24-10-2010
Location: Flerovium
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 18-11-2014 at 14:06


What's the actual experiment here?

At least the chlorine generation part can be mitigated by leading the gas into a dilute hydroxide solution to neutralize it. I'd recommend doing this on your balcony/porch if available - that's what I used to do when I lived in an apartment. If you're friendly with your neighbors it might not be a bad idea to notify them to not panic if they smell any fumes, too.
View user's profile Visit user's homepage View All Posts By User
aga
Forum Drunkard
*****




Posts: 7030
Registered: 25-3-2014
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 18-11-2014 at 14:19


Go with your Gut feeling.

Clearly you have misgivings about it, otherwise you'd not have posted this.

ALWAYS go with the gut feeling - it is almost always 100% correct.




View user's profile View All Posts By User
Endo
Hazard to Others
***




Posts: 124
Registered: 5-1-2006
Location: USA
Member Is Offline

Mood: Cold

[*] posted on 18-11-2014 at 14:34


If the experiment you are gearing up for is to make sodium chloride from the elements, and not alarm the neighbors...

One safety tip. When placing the sodium into a container filled with chlorine (captured by water displacement) avoid having any water in the bottom of the reaction vessel come into contact with the sodium metal. One person I know had a 2L Erlenmeyer flask explode in his hand while showing this demo. Lowering in a bent spoon or ladle holding the sodium, or even a piece of window screen in the bottom of the container to keep the sodium out of any water in the bottom may help. You can cover the top of the reaction vessel, but don't cap or stopper it.

Good Luck!



View user's profile View All Posts By User
gardul
HAZARD TO TEH CATZ!
***




Posts: 256
Registered: 18-10-2014
Location: Under the Sun in a beaker
Member Is Offline

Mood: Vivified!

[*] posted on 18-11-2014 at 16:27


Thank you for the ideas.

I actually decided to do this at wife's parents house where it was a little more open and less people around. They all fully enjoyed it. Parents being parents, I got alecture in why I don't go back to school for chemistry and all that stuff. I think i'm just getting to old to go back to college for something like that.




I just made you read this very pointless signature. How does it feel?
View user's profile View All Posts By User
MrHomeScientist
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 1806
Registered: 24-10-2010
Location: Flerovium
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 19-11-2014 at 06:54


Never too old to learn! I want to go back for a chemistry degree too, but we'll see how that works out with my current job.

The Na + Cl demo is one of my favorites. I've had the ability to do it for forever but for whatever reason I never got around to it. I think it is THE chemical reaction: combine a choking green gas that was used in chemical warfare with a metal that explodes when it gets wet, and you get table salt!
View user's profile Visit user's homepage View All Posts By User
aga
Forum Drunkard
*****




Posts: 7030
Registered: 25-3-2014
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 19-11-2014 at 12:07


A restaurant that had those ingredients on the table just in case you wanted extra seasoning would be definitely worth visiting !



View user's profile View All Posts By User
gardul
HAZARD TO TEH CATZ!
***




Posts: 256
Registered: 18-10-2014
Location: Under the Sun in a beaker
Member Is Offline

Mood: Vivified!

[*] posted on 19-11-2014 at 13:27


Quote: Originally posted by aga  
A restaurant that had those ingredients on the table just in case you wanted extra seasoning would be definitely worth visiting !


That would be kinda neat actually. The insurance to cover such would be insane.




I just made you read this very pointless signature. How does it feel?
View user's profile View All Posts By User
blogfast25
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 10562
Registered: 3-2-2008
Location: Neverland
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 20-11-2014 at 05:14


Quote: Originally posted by MrHomeScientist  
Never too old to learn! I want to go back for a chemistry degree too, but we'll see how that works out with my current job.

The Na + Cl demo is one of my favorites. I've had the ability to do it for forever but for whatever reason I never got around to it. I think it is THE chemical reaction: combine a choking green gas that was used in chemical warfare with a metal that explodes when it gets wet, and you get table salt!


Fantastic! Hope you do...

There is something almost 'magical' about simple chemical transformations, something that attracted me to chemistry from about 13. Of course now we know it's a kind of 'Lego but with atoms' but that makes it no less fascinating.

[Edited on 20-11-2014 by blogfast25]




View user's profile View All Posts By User

  Go To Top