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shocked.gif posted on 15-10-2018 at 21:42
Amateur Chemistry now vs several decades into the Future


So I thought I would add this
the other post was
Amateur Chemistry now vs several decades ago
http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=95348
We got to be thinking about the future of amature chemistry

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[*] posted on 15-10-2018 at 22:36


Sulfuric acid will at least be available as 37% for old batteries. You can boil it down or distill it.
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[*] posted on 16-10-2018 at 08:45


As we move from physical to digital money, that can be traced/monitored/controlled,
it is likely that future amateur chemists will have to behave as 'cooks' and terrorists do nowadays - completely clandestine.
We could see a total change in society where chemistry and 'the dark side' are synonymous.
Or if just one amateur discovers something genuinely useful,
there could be a resurgence of experimentalism.

So let's get into our labs and discover something useful. :P
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[*] posted on 16-10-2018 at 08:56


This entirely depends on your view of the future, Utopian? Dystopian? Apocalyptic? and how those scenarios arise (eg: revolution, government paranoia [current trend], gamma ray burst, supervolcano, ww3 etc...).

The game always changes, but strangely remains the same. Old problems have new solutions and new problems old solutions. This is why I like SM, we have people here who have the knowledge/skills to tackle any problem (with enough motivation).

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[*] posted on 17-10-2018 at 02:47


I want a matter replicator !
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[*] posted on 17-10-2018 at 11:57


I think the near future will give rise to more decentralized model of resource exchange, it already applies to money (Bitcoin), goods (OpenBazaar) and sharing economy (AirBnb, Uber...). Hopefully, a free exchange between enthusiasts like us amateur experimentators chemists will be much easier.

The author of World Wide Web just designed a new model of having personal identity and personal data on the net without having to give them away to centralised service (like LinkedIn, Facebook etc.)

I am already part of such community, where we exchange otherwise regulated and rare goods (which would otherwise be overly taxed by state, that already consumes over 60% of all my income just on the taxes).

I am optimistic that we are going toward more organic, open, community-driven world.

Although the classic authoritative controlling state will still be there, a new ecosystem grows around it and finally will replace it. It might go with more or less kicking and screaming of the old system - I just hope the transition won't be too violent.
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[*] posted on 20-10-2018 at 12:09


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it is likely that future amateur chemists will have to behave as 'cooks' and terrorists do nowadays - completely clandestine


That is likely to be a very accurate prediction. Not only chemistry but any technical activity will be highly controlled of 'banned' by the scum known as 'government'.


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I think the near future will give rise to more decentralized model of resource exchange, it already applies to money (Bitcoin), goods (OpenBazaar) and sharing economy (AirBnb, Uber...)


LOL! Bitcoin and the euphemistically called 'sharing economy' are polar opposites. airbnb and uber are just arms of the government and completely centralized cancers. The only thing they 'share' is your data to the NSA and your profits to them. They are worse than tax agencies.

As to bitcoin, it is a force for good but easily destroyed by government criminals. The same criminal scum who are enemies of 'amateur' chemistry.

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[*] posted on 20-10-2018 at 12:30


Calmate
I read your post I looks intense
All we have to do is show why armature chemistry is relevant or important some of us are PhD students engineers work for defense contractors. respected career fields according to society.

read popular science we are no different then the whole maker community just a cautious branch due to society at large. Their have been amature chemists on TV on popular shows

Big accomplishments have been made.
What is the cure for chemicalphobia







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[*] posted on 20-10-2018 at 16:42


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All we have to do is show why armature chemistry is relevant or important


The only thing that matters and the only thing that is 'relevant' is a person wanting to do something. The only 'justification' needed here is the desire to do something.

So 'we' don't have to show anything to anybody else and 'we' don't have to ask permission from government criminals.

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some of us are PhD students engineers work for defense contractors.


'defense' contractor, go figure. In case you didn't get the memo the 'job' of a 'defense' contractor is to make weapons and murder innocent people so that politicians and crony capitalists can rule the world.

Botton line, your line of thinking is the source of all 'our' problems.




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[*] posted on 21-10-2018 at 06:53


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(All we have to do is show why armature chemistry is relevant or important)
I change my mind
you are right there is nothing to prove. A chemical illiterate society and amature chemistry being synonymous with meth and breaking bad is so annoying.
I think that will change in the near future sloowly as people have this need to learn more.



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[*] posted on 21-10-2018 at 10:46


For completness' sake, consider how your utilitarian argument can be used against you :

If you ask your political masters "please let me do amateur chemistry so that 'society' can benefit" they will reply : "If you are interested in chemistry go to a proper school and then go to work for dow chemical and a create 'useful' products like this one"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Zectran_2009_hanna_jon.JP...
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[*] posted on 21-10-2018 at 11:21


Any ideas to cure chemicalphobia?
From natural and man made chemicals

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[*] posted on 21-10-2018 at 12:02


Quote: Originally posted by symboom  
Any ideas to cure chemicalphobia?
From natural and man made chemicals

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No, it's impossible to wake those who pretend to be asleep, so the best way to eliminate these people is to remove them from the society, ie exile/deport them, kill them, put them in conc camps etc :P



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[*] posted on 21-10-2018 at 18:15


No cure :(
I'm my country there was a Dow chemical company ad that showed things made by chemicals shrinking and disappearing.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EUQ3hS0reXc
Everything is a chemical
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[*] posted on 22-10-2018 at 06:56


Quote: Originally posted by fusso  
Quote: Originally posted by symboom  
Any ideas to cure chemicalphobia?
From natural and man made chemicals

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No, it's impossible to wake those who pretend to be asleep, so the best way to eliminate these people is to remove them from the society, ie exile/deport them, kill them, put them in conc camps etc :P


Lethal injections cure everything!




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[*] posted on 23-10-2018 at 05:46


We will be using typewriters and an abacus-calculated SHA256 blockchain posted in The Times disguised as personal ads as a forum. It will take 2 weeks for a post to be transmitted :)



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