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[*] posted on 9-7-2017 at 13:46


Does anyone know anything about the salts of acetone dicarboxylic acid such as the alkali or alkaline earth salts or have any references to such salts? What I am thinking about is the relative stability and solubility of such salts with a view to understanding how these salts behave. The free acid is very unstable, the pure esters are much more stable but what about the salts. There is a fair amount of published information about the esters but very little about the inorganic salts.
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[*] posted on 21-7-2017 at 01:17


Quote: Originally posted by Boffis  
Does anyone know anything about the salts of acetone dicarboxylic acid such as the alkali or alkaline earth salts or have any references to such salts?about the inorganic salts.

Quote: Originally posted by ronstark  

Did anyone know some tests for Acetonedicarboxylic Acid presence?
[Edited on 25-6-2017 by ronstark]

On lambdasyn it says, that in ethanolic solution it turns wine red with addition of some iron(III)chloride solution, so this could maybe help you ronstark:)

On the same page it says, that acetonedicarboxylic acid is decomposed to acetone and CO2 by hot water, acids and bases. So i think it wouldn't be the greatest idea to add some NaOH to get the sodium salt.

So maybe using a citrate salt instead of citric acid could do the trick? But than no acid should be used or it will displace the citric acid out of the salt:(

[Edited on 21-7-2017 by Tellurium]
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[*] posted on 24-7-2017 at 00:26


For now is still in Ethyl Acetate. It was too hot outside these weeks to work on synth's. Will try both after distillation and yield calculation. Thanks!

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[*] posted on 6-10-2017 at 02:41


2.834g after removal of Ethyl Acetate. The solid started to decompose @ RT with a very powerful smell of formic acid. Maybe this works after all.

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