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[*] posted on 9-10-2017 at 07:13
Fisher Scientific & Restricted Chemicals


While the common wisdom is that Fisher Scientific does not sell to individuals, this is not completely true- for example, you can order triphenylphosphine from them without a hassle, but not ethyl acetate.

Does anyone know the rationale for that? Is there a rule for restricted/unrestricted, or is it just an oversight on the website?

Also (bit of a stretch), does anyone have an account with them, that I can order through? All the reagents I need I can get through other sources, for the most part, but being able to get them in reasonable amounts from one source would save A LOT on shipping...
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[*] posted on 9-10-2017 at 07:30


It was my understanding that you need a business address to even create an account with them before ordering anything. You might do a search for Mario on here. The prices probably won't be the cheapest but he has an amazing track record of supplying the to hard to find/acquire. I haven't seen a post mentioning him for awhile come to think of it....
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[*] posted on 9-10-2017 at 09:29


Mario is still active- I'll send him an email, but I'd rather stay local- the shipping from PL to the US is prohibitive.



[Edited on 2017-10-9 by myristicinaldehyde]




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[*] posted on 10-10-2017 at 15:18


You won't save on shipping with any vendor like Fisher, they usually charge a fee per chemical, and often ship each item in a separate box, due to hazmat regs. Just post what you are looking for, and people may be able to help you find it OTC or nearby. There are a few people here that sell small amounts, Tom Holm and his company, Elemental Scientific, and others.
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[*] posted on 10-10-2017 at 15:27


If anyone's near NYC, it's possible to get OTC nitric acid ($60/gallon) NaCN ($20/lb) KCN ($20/lb) 30% H2O2, 28% NH3, (also quite cheap) and probably a few more I'm forgetting. B&H photo has a lot of inorganic chemicals that are meant for use in photography too. Thanks New Jersey for covering yourself in pollution so New York can have cheap OTC reagents!



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[*] posted on 21-10-2017 at 17:02


There's a laundry list of chemicals that are regulated in some way:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEA_list_of_chemicals

As I understand it, it's not outright illegal to sell Joe Public a 'hot' chemical like lysergic acid, but there's paperwork to be completed. Most chem companies won't sell listed precursors to individuals just because it's a hassle for them.

A chemical supply house may have it's own personal restrictions based on concerns about safety or misuse beyond the actual gov. regulated stuff.

There are a lot of smaller supply houses out there, it shouldn't be a problem to find somebody happy to sell you some hydrides.
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[*] posted on 21-10-2017 at 17:49


Lysergic acid is a controlled substance as well as a listed one. Joe Public can't buy it without a DEA permit; less paperwork is required to sell a tank.

Hydrides are hard to find sometimes but seem to be pretty widely available right now if you're willing to pay the high prices that people are asking for them.




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[*] posted on 22-10-2017 at 18:51


By the way, if anyone is interested in acquiring sodium bis-2-methoxyethoxy aluminum dihydride (nobody say any of its better-known names, or we'll attract you-know-who) I can acquire it for perhaps a dollar a gram (70% in toluene) if ordered in quantities of half a kilogram or more. I'm not THAT personally interested in it, but this is the first time I've seen it available from someone besides Sigma Aldrich et al., so I thought I might put that out there.



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[*] posted on 23-10-2017 at 09:01


What do you use this hydride for reduction of what?

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[*] posted on 23-10-2017 at 10:48


Quote: Originally posted by gatosgr  
What do you use this hydride for reduction of what?

[Edited on 23-10-2017 by gatosgr]

Reduction of just about anything that can be reduced, to either an amine or an alcohol.

Price is less than $1/gram, probably between $0.75 and $1.00 after shipping.




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[*] posted on 24-10-2017 at 09:29


Quote: Originally posted by myristicinaldehyde  
Mario is still active- I'll send him an email, but I'd rather stay local- the shipping from PL to the US is prohibitive.



[Edited on 2017-10-9 by myristicinaldehyde]


You also need to pay in Bitcoin or MoneyGram, both of which are sorta hard to get to work correctly. That's the only thing that prevented me from buying HNO3.




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[*] posted on 25-10-2017 at 07:41


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[*] posted on 28-10-2017 at 11:13


As an update on what, exactly, I wanted to buy (I wrote a nice, long post but then lost it)

Many of these I can buy off Amazon/Ebay or an online store- but this splits up shipping costs and I don't need 500g of TsCl, for example.

- Hydroquinone
- Tosyl chloride
- Ethyl acetate
- Dimethylformamide
- Bis(pinacolato)diboron
- Triphenylphosphine
- Zinc dust
- Potassium tert-butoxide
- A reducing hydride
- a-pinene

Sodium bis-2-methoxyethoxy aluminum dihydride is tempting, but half a kilo for a few hundred $ is beyond my means :(




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[*] posted on 28-10-2017 at 17:26


Quote: Originally posted by myristicinaldehyde  
As an update on what, exactly, I wanted to buy (I wrote a nice, long post but then lost it)

Many of these I can buy off Amazon/Ebay or an online store- but this splits up shipping costs and I don't need 500g of TsCl, for example.

- Hydroquinone
- Tosyl chloride
- Ethyl acetate
- Dimethylformamide
- Bis(pinacolato)diboron
- Triphenylphosphine
- Zinc dust
- Potassium tert-butoxide
- A reducing hydride
- a-pinene

Sodium bis-2-methoxyethoxy aluminum dihydride is tempting, but half a kilo for a few hundred $ is beyond my means :(


I suggest you get the common ones from OTC sources. For example, ethyl acetate from nail polish remover or paint thinner, and a-pinene from distilling turpentine.
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[*] posted on 5-11-2017 at 17:42


Quote: Originally posted by myristicinaldehyde  

- Hydroquinone

How much do you want? I still have some from my photography days.
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